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		<title>By: phee</title>
		<link>http://phoenixwolfray.com/2009/05/10/psycho-mom/comment-page-1/#comment-10492</link>
		<dc:creator>phee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw... thank you Amber! This warmed my heart and helped me to feel less alone. The thing about not nagging and letting them do whatever they want, yes, that&#039;s been my pattern too. I haven&#039;t tended to whine--but I do whine in my mind and I think they hear that too, on some level. 

And it&#039;s true, they don&#039;t all forget. One or two of them generally remember my birthday. And one or two will remember Mother&#039;s Day to the extent of calling. But Psycho Mom wants SO MUCH MORE. She wants what all those moms who get royally treated on Mother&#039;s Day get. Thanks for commenting. I had figured out which Amber you were by the context but it was good to have that confirmed too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw&#8230; thank you Amber! This warmed my heart and helped me to feel less alone. The thing about not nagging and letting them do whatever they want, yes, that&#8217;s been my pattern too. I haven&#8217;t tended to whine&#8211;but I do whine in my mind and I think they hear that too, on some level. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s true, they don&#8217;t all forget. One or two of them generally remember my birthday. And one or two will remember Mother&#8217;s Day to the extent of calling. But Psycho Mom wants SO MUCH MORE. She wants what all those moms who get royally treated on Mother&#8217;s Day get. Thanks for commenting. I had figured out which Amber you were by the context but it was good to have that confirmed too!</p>
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		<title>By: amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jean... this was fabulous!  Now i know there are other mothers in the world that dread Mother&#039;s Day &amp; their own birthday as well, because their kids have forgotten that they exist.  

I hate it, every freaking year, when my friend tells me that &quot;their daughter took them out for Mother&#039;s Day brunch &amp; the spa, their other daughter is taking them out for MD dinner, and the day following MD, their son is taking them to the Museum&quot;.  And as you said, seeing the love on facebook... Every year i have to endure hearing stories like this.  *sigh*  

It&#039;s not that my kids don&#039;t love me.  I know they do.  There are just more important things in their lives happening now.  It&#039;s that i&#039;ve never forced them to do anything, and i don&#039;t nag at them either... so i sit forgotten while their lives move on.  I should say that two of my kids do remember me on Mother&#039;s Day and at least call me... but the other two don&#039;t.  It&#039;s the latter two that i&#039;m moaning about mostly.  But none of them seem to know when my birthday is though.  I just don&#039;t understand that.

I must say that your becoming a phoenix having something to do with it... I think that my oldest was bent out of shape by my own phoenix-happening as well.  That definitely could be part of it.

Anyway, your nagging them so that they don&#039;t WANT to call you, or my never nagging them and they just don&#039;t THINK to call me... it doesn&#039;t matter.  Same result.  So i wouldn&#039;t beat yourself up too much over that.

Phee... i love your writing, your photography and your music.  Your openness &amp; honesty... You are a true all-around artist!  

*hug* amber (Hope... if you have more Amber friends...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jean&#8230; this was fabulous!  Now i know there are other mothers in the world that dread Mother&#8217;s Day &amp; their own birthday as well, because their kids have forgotten that they exist.  </p>
<p>I hate it, every freaking year, when my friend tells me that &#8220;their daughter took them out for Mother&#8217;s Day brunch &amp; the spa, their other daughter is taking them out for MD dinner, and the day following MD, their son is taking them to the Museum&#8221;.  And as you said, seeing the love on facebook&#8230; Every year i have to endure hearing stories like this.  *sigh*  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that my kids don&#8217;t love me.  I know they do.  There are just more important things in their lives happening now.  It&#8217;s that i&#8217;ve never forced them to do anything, and i don&#8217;t nag at them either&#8230; so i sit forgotten while their lives move on.  I should say that two of my kids do remember me on Mother&#8217;s Day and at least call me&#8230; but the other two don&#8217;t.  It&#8217;s the latter two that i&#8217;m moaning about mostly.  But none of them seem to know when my birthday is though.  I just don&#8217;t understand that.</p>
<p>I must say that your becoming a phoenix having something to do with it&#8230; I think that my oldest was bent out of shape by my own phoenix-happening as well.  That definitely could be part of it.</p>
<p>Anyway, your nagging them so that they don&#8217;t WANT to call you, or my never nagging them and they just don&#8217;t THINK to call me&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t matter.  Same result.  So i wouldn&#8217;t beat yourself up too much over that.</p>
<p>Phee&#8230; i love your writing, your photography and your music.  Your openness &amp; honesty&#8230; You are a true all-around artist!  </p>
<p>*hug* amber (Hope&#8230; if you have more Amber friends&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: phee</title>
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		<dc:creator>phee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks you guys... yes, Jean, go ahead and share with your mother. I really appreciate your comments. 

Neil, it&#039;s true, these are very primal instincts that become awakened when we procreate, and before that happens, it&#039;s impossible to understand. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m being hard on myself, just working it through in writing... writing is therapy, as well as my drug of choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks you guys&#8230; yes, Jean, go ahead and share with your mother. I really appreciate your comments. </p>
<p>Neil, it&#8217;s true, these are very primal instincts that become awakened when we procreate, and before that happens, it&#8217;s impossible to understand. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m being hard on myself, just working it through in writing&#8230; writing is therapy, as well as my drug of choice.</p>
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		<title>By: neil fawcett</title>
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		<dc:creator>neil fawcett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 05:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a good part of my life, I had no interest in children. No paternal instincts, that I knew of. Then, I had two daughters, and now I would say they are the only part of my life that really matters, the only thing I&#039;ve ever done that I can say, unambiguously, I am happy about. Somewhere in me, a switch got flicked that set in motion instincts that are older than anything we&#039;ve ever invented.

We like to think we&#039;re so advanced, so evolved, so beyond the drives that define many of the creatures on this planet, but we&#039;re not, really. We&#039;ve been afraid of the dark ever since there really were nasty things lurking just beyond the campfire, or just outside the cave. We&#039;re hardwired -still- to nurture, and to want that connection with children we created that seems so natural, so pre-ordained.

You&#039;re not psycho mom. You&#039;re just human. Don&#039;t be hard on yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a good part of my life, I had no interest in children. No paternal instincts, that I knew of. Then, I had two daughters, and now I would say they are the only part of my life that really matters, the only thing I&#8217;ve ever done that I can say, unambiguously, I am happy about. Somewhere in me, a switch got flicked that set in motion instincts that are older than anything we&#8217;ve ever invented.</p>
<p>We like to think we&#8217;re so advanced, so evolved, so beyond the drives that define many of the creatures on this planet, but we&#8217;re not, really. We&#8217;ve been afraid of the dark ever since there really were nasty things lurking just beyond the campfire, or just outside the cave. We&#8217;re hardwired -still- to nurture, and to want that connection with children we created that seems so natural, so pre-ordained.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not psycho mom. You&#8217;re just human. Don&#8217;t be hard on yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS:  i think this is the best thing you have ever written.  it certainly has moved me the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS:  i think this is the best thing you have ever written.  it certainly has moved me the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God Phoenix, that was fantastic.  i am blown away.  tears in my eyes.  please post this on willfull magic and &#039;the list&#039;.  

may i send this to my mother?  

thank you ...

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Phoenix, that was fantastic.  i am blown away.  tears in my eyes.  please post this on willfull magic and &#8216;the list&#8217;.  </p>
<p>may i send this to my mother?  </p>
<p>thank you &#8230;</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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